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Preparation pays off for talk on salary

Posted on Jun 26, 2006

Q: When I go to a job interview, there's one question I never know how to handle. What should I say when the interviewer asks me what my salary expectations are? I don't want to mention a number that's too high and be eliminated, and I don't want to suggest a number that's too low and wind up short-changing myself if I'm hired.


Could I head off the problem by raising the issue first and asking what the employer intends to offer?


  
A: Don't raise the issue first. There's universal agreement on that point among our experts. If you ask first, you'll lose out one way or another, they say.


“If they've made an offer to hire you and they haven't mentioned salary, that is the only case when I might say a job-seeker should inquire what the salary is,” said Thomas J. McKenna of McKenna & Associates, an executive marketing and career counseling firm in Menands.


That's rare, however. It's far more common for an interviewer to pose the salary question before you're ready to answer it, and the options for fielding it gracefully don't always come easily to mind when you're working so hard to make a good impression.


Flatly refusing to address the issue won't go over well, of course, and McKenna and the other experts note that interviewers may use the question as a screening tool to quickly weed out candidates who will expect more than an employer is willing to offer.


“Rarely, if this is happening early in the process, does the candidate have sufficient information to provide an answer” that matches the scope and duties of the position, said Erik Larsen, director of the Stanley R. Becker Career Center at Union College in Schenectady.


There are, however, ways to skirt the question in the early stages of discussion and still make a good impression. One technique is to put the ball back in the interviewer's court by asking more about the job and the employer's expectations.


“My recommendation is that you tell them what your previous salary was and ask, 'What range did you identify for this position?' ” McKenna said. “You're giving them some information, which they're going to ask anyway, but you're throwing the question back to them.”


Added Larsen, “Some find it useful to communicate that they are seeking an amount that is consistent with the responsibilities and expectations of the position,” then follow up with a request for more specifics.


“Defer salary negotiation until the offer is made,” suggests Tom Denham, managing partner with Careers in Transition in Colonie. “Say, 'I would prefer to discuss salary after an offer is made.' If they press you, throw it back on them: 'Based on the requirements for this position, what is your typical salary range for this opportunity?' “


If the interviewer comes back with a reasonable range, based on your research, say something like: “That's something I can work with. We can iron out the details after we agree on an offer,” Denham said.


If and when it becomes absolutely necessary to put some amount on the table, the experts say you should offer a range, rather than a precise number.


“We recommend that candidates try to express a range from slightly below the expectation to slightly above,” said Mark Schmiedeshoff, director of The Center for Careers & Employment at Hudson Valley Community College in Troy.


And especially for newer job-seekers, the experts say, advance research can be critical for determining a reasonable range for the job and the region where it's located.


“Go to Web sites, look at ads, go to the career center. We have salary surveys that we can share with the students,” Schmiedeshoff said.


Larsen suggests citing a source for your estimate, aside from yourself. Mention that faculty members or fellow students who are being recruited for similar positions have indicated what would be a usual range.


“Instead of saying, 'This is what I demand,' or, 'This is what I expect,' say something more like, 'This is what I understand is the going rate,' ” Larsen said.


Q: I'm trying to land a new job and am asking that potential employers reach me at my home telephone number, which also is our family telephone. What sort of greeting can I record that will provide the necessary information for an employer, strike a professional tone, and also serve our household well?


A: At least for a while, it would be best to let the family greeting take a back seat and concentrate on recording something that will serve you well in your job search.


“The biggest problem that I have from my clients is their 10-year-old wants to record the message,” said Tom McKenna of McKenna & Associates. “It's cute, but if a person's looking for a job, it also comes across as unprofessional. It also gives away some personal information: The company doesn't need to know that the person has a child.”


Employers can make incorrect assumptions, based on what they hear on an answering machine — perhaps that the candidate won't be willing to travel for his job or will have family concerns that could be distractions, the experts say.


Don't given them the chance to jump to the wrong conclusions.


“Keep it professional but friendly,” advised Tom Denham of Careers in Transition, noting that most employers understand the greeting they hear when they call a home number will likely be less formal than at a business telephone.


Denham's suggestion: “Hello. You have reached the Smith household. At the tone, please leave your name, number, time you called and a brief message. We will get back to you as soon as possible.”


McKenna advises something as simple as possible, such as: “This is Robert Smith. I'm tied up right now. Please feel free to leave a message.”


Don't overlook tone, as well as content.


“Be enthusiastic and energetic with the tone of your voice,” Denham said. “Employers can often tell a lot about a potential candidate's character by the inflection in one's speech. Does it sound positive or mediocre?”
 
 

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Scholarship @ U: The indomitable spirit

Posted on Jun 23, 2006

'Generous scholarship support for students who need it is the key to our future.'

Scholarship is as much a tradition at Union as Homecoming or painting the Idol. On these pages, Accolades looks at some of the College's scholarships and how they have shaped students' lives. They also exemplify the many different ways in which donors choose to create scholarships.

One who so eloquently articulated the tradition and importance of scholarship at Union was the late Charles M. Tidmarch, professor of political science. Speaking at the beginning of the College's Bicentennial Campaign, launched in 1991, Tidmarch hailed scholarships as a way to bring to campus talented and underserved undergraduates who can thrive in the College's challenging atmosphere and add to its intellectually vigorous life. His remarks, more than a decade later, are as timely as ever:

“One of the things I appreciate about the founding of Union is the democratic impulses that made this college different from most other early American colleges. True to the spirit that had brought forth a new nation, the founders of Union were determined to avoid narrow sectarian interest. The children of farmers were as welcome as the children of ministers and patroons.

“Thankfully, the College is as committed today as it was in 1795 to bringing together a blend of competent, highly motivated, young persons from varying backgrounds. Looking toward the next century, I am convinced that generous scholarship support for students who need it is the key to our future. When we help a student in this fashion, we also help our community, our nation, and our world.”

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Henle Scholar – Regina Chiuminnato: The classics major

Posted on Jun 23, 2006

Coming to Union was a leap of faith for Regina Chiuminnato. The ballet dancer from Milwaukee, Wisc., had planned to go to a college closer to home. Her high school guidance counselor had other thoughts.

“She was always raving about Union,” Chiuminnato relates. “She said, ‘This school is perfect for you.' I said that was interesting, but I'd look later.”

When she did, “what struck me most was how beautiful the campus was. Union also had a broader curriculum, so at the last minute, I changed my mind.”

In high school, Chiuminatto wrote sonnets and was a member of the Milwaukee Ballet School, a rigorous classical training ground. Her arrival at Union, a pas de deux with fate, propelled her into a world of languages and Victorian literature. Already well-versed in French with knowledge of Latin, she jumped into Greek and German classes her first trimester. A Classics major, she hopes to learn Italian, Chinese and Russian, study comparative literature in graduate school and “definitely” pursue her Ph.D.

When she needs a break from “brain-frying,” Chiuminatto turns to poetry by Milton, Pope and Thomas Hardy. She's a member of Orange House Council and the Ballroom Dance Club. She thinks about a term abroad: “France, Greece, China, Italy… with so many options, it would be foolish not to go somewhere.”

In short, Union allows Chiuminnato to be who she is and who she might become. Clearly, she's poised for great things.

“I don't think any other school would have been as good a fit for me because of the stimulating social and intellectual atmosphere here,” she says. “For instance, Professor (Tarik) Wareh, my Greek teacher, is really great. Last week, we were discussing the various functions and forms of intensive and reflexive pronouns in English, French and Greek. I really enjoyed international politics with Byron Nichols, too. He's another one I can talk to about anything.”

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Obenzinger Scholar scores big with health programs

Posted on Jun 23, 2006

Derek Wayman '06 is tackling more than most students. The 2005-06 Obenzinger Scholar is helping the College create public health programs, volunteering in his hometown and preparing for a career in medicine – all while leading the Dutchmen defense with 51 tackles and five sacks in their 11-1 football season.

The Ronald M. Obenzinger Memorial Premedical Scholarship was created by the late Nathan and Romana Obenzinger in memory of their son, Ronald M. Obenzinger '61, who died of Hodgkin's Disease while a medical student. Ronald's brother, Mark '65, helped organize the trust.

A chemistry major from Ballston Lake, N.Y., who was named Academic All-American by ESPN the Magazine, Wayman says, “The scholarship has allowed me to look past the kind of medicine that gets practiced behind the closed doors of a hospital or doctor's office, and to realize the importance of public health awareness outside the classroom.”

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Henle Scholar – Kara McCabe: The legacy

Posted on Jun 23, 2006


“I am a musician, completely and totally, every part of me,” says Kara McCabe, opera singer and instrumentalist. “My mom tells me I started to sing before I started to talk.”


McCabe is a graduate of the prestigious Manhattan School of Music, where she studied while simultanecously attending high school in Park Ridge, N.J. At 17, she attended the premier Tanglewood Institute in Lenox, Mass. – having already performed, at 15, at Carnegie Hall as a violinist with the Bergen Young Artists Orchestra.

Now, at 19, McCabe is blending the best of all possible worlds. The daughter of Karen Fasoli McCabe '74 and Tim McCabe '73 and sister of Andrew '03 and Gillian '05, she is pursuing her love of British literature and other courses while taking private vocal lessons.

“I've got four generations of people who left a mark on this College,” McCabe says, noting that a great, great grandfather, a grandfather and a great uncle also went to Union. “My father and my sister won the Bailey Prize. My brother won the Daggett Prize. My mom was a trailblazer; she was in the College's first female class.”

A dual music and English major, McCabe is already exerting her own mark on the school. She sings in the College choir and Garnet Minstrels, writes for Concordiensis and is active in Sorum House Council and several other campus groups.

“I love Union. And it's finally my turn to come here. I'm not going to be at my vocal peak until I'm 30, and instead of throwing myself to the wolves at 18, I know that at Union I'm going to get an amazing, well-rounded, liberal arts experience. I'll go to conservatory as a grad student. To be onstage at the Metropolitan Opera is my be-all and end-all.”

For now, Union gives McCabe the perfect place to mature, take risks and broaden her horizons. She'll sing to that.

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Julie ’81 and Terry ’81 Martin: Corporate refugees go with the flow

Posted on Jun 23, 2006

Julie and Terry Martin had all the trappings of corporate success – big titles and salaries, prestige and perks – at the height of the e-commerce boom. Then three years ago, after more than two decades, the Class of '81 computer engineers walked away from it all.

Make that kayaked away.

Instead of developing databases, the Martins, who met at Union, are designing their own version of a dream come true as kayakers on Cape Cod.

Julie is store manager and head of the outdoor adventure program for Goose Hummock Paddle Shop in Orleans, Mass. Terry is a boat mechanic for the company's marina. Both teach kayaking and lead guided paddling trips.

“I was 40 the first time I got in a kayak,” said Julie, 46, a Niskayuna, N.Y., native. “I made a very odd career change late in life, and it's awesome. Terry and I had semi-illustrious careers for GE, Unisys, Compaq, Sun Microsystems; we lived in London. You make a lot of money, but sometimes it's hard to enjoy it. The bosses, the customers – whoever the ‘they' is at the moment – have no qualms about calling you at two in the morning.

“My first year out was hard; my second year, I bagged all my suits; the third year, well, I can't imagine going back.”

“I'll do anything to stay close to water,” agrees Terry, 46, of Summit, N.J. “We were working on innovative, exciting projects for original equipment manufacturers, but those jobs are 24/7. You live in airports.”

In 1999, the Martins took a leave of absence. They skied out west, sunned on the Kona Coast, and caught the kayaking bug in the San Juan Islands in Washington state.

When the Y2K frenzy hit, they succumbed to “tons of pressure” to return to their jobs with Sun Microsystems in the World Trade Center.

“Then, in 2001, they blew up the World Trade Center,” Julie said. “We should have been there, but we'd gone back to the islands for some kayaking. We flew into the city the morning of Sept. 11 and were preparing to relocate to Boston that day. We watched the smoke in our rear view mirror… In Boston, where I was overseeing the Northeast Division, it was too weird. My New York employees were traumatized. All of our systems and our intellectual property were gone. I didn't have the energy to start over.”

Said Terry: “We chewed through the corporate leash, this time for real.”

The Martins now make their home in a rambling hillside ranch in South Orleans. Both are paddling-certified by the British Canoe Union.

“I hope to have my own paddling business one day,” Julie said. “My dad, a surgeon, asked me, ‘Aren't you wasting your education?' I said, ‘No, Dad, just the opposite; my education gave me all the smarts, the creative thinking, I need, to do this.'

“At Union, I learned how to think for myself and not be afraid of what's out there.”

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